I was born in Chandler’s Ford in 1942 and lived in Station Lane until about 1972.
I remember many of the old places. We used to play in the old brickfield then go off up to Knightwood where there was a big sand pit created allegedly by a stray bomb during the war.
This is me aged about 16 – my first year in the Royal Navy at Boys Training Establishment HMS St Vincent at Gosport 1958.
I now live in Hedge End. I drove through there not long ago and realised how much it’s changed. Nice to see the butcher’s shop is still operating on the Parade – that was my school job every Tues evening and Saturday morning delivering meat on a bike. L.S.Horn was the butcher; “Swithun” was what the adults used to call him, but to me, he was Mr Horn of course.
I also worked there for 6 months after leaving North End school prior to joining the Royal Navy at 15 and a bit!
The Laundry in the Country – in Chandler’s Ford
My Dad worked for the old Chandler’s Ford Laundry in the 1920s. Here are two iconic pictures of the laundry van, and the laundry girls. My father was the driver.
The vans carried a picture of a bridge over a river. In these pictures you could see the driver and the laundry girls were all smartly dressed.
His family moved to Chandler’s Ford from Hursley. My father fought in 1914 / 18 war and his name is on the war memorial at Hursley. This is quite unique in having ALL soldiers remembered including those that survived, luckily he did otherwise I would not be writing this.
They lived at Warbury Villas, somewhere along Hursley Road long since gone I imagine.
The Iron pond and story of ghosts
Another snippet from my childhood: there used to be a railway line from the station out to the Brickfield and beyond passing alongside Miss Eydeman’s house, the last in Station Lane. It went out past the Brickfield out in the woods to what we called the Iron pond.
Legend had it that a train came off the rails and went into the Iron pond killing the crew, and their ghosts would be around the area. It is probably a story put about by Mr Fortune the farmer to keep us children away from it as it was on his land. It was copper coloured, most likely a dumping ground for the brick dust, and just a dry big bowl in my time.
My paternal grandparents
My paternal grandparents lived in Hursley at one of the cottages on the main road. These were probably owned by the estate of Sir George Cooper, and I believe my grandfather (possibly grandmother as well) worked on or for the estate.
My grandfather was an engine driver (traction) so he would have the steam engine and all the agriculture “tackle” for ploughing furrowing etc and would go round the estate farms doing that work.
My dad and WWI
My Dad left school at 12 yrs old (as most did at that time). My Dad was born in 1899, the youngest of 9 children, and worked with his father on the steam tackle up untill he had to go into the army in August 1917, and was sent to France the following January with the Hampshire regiment.
My father fought at Ypres, the Somme and Cambrai, wounded and sent back to England. After he had recovered, he was sent back to France with the Lancashire Fusiliers until his demob in 1919.
Winchester Road, Chandlers Ford in 1951, taken from what is now the entrance to Fryern Arcade, looking north. pic.twitter.com/ljfQx1ILui
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From Hursley to Chandler’s Ford
My grandparents Thomas and Ann White moved from Hursley to Chandler’s Ford sometime during or after the Great War. My dad was living in Hursley with them when he went into the Army in 1916. They lived at 3 Warberry Villas, Hursley Road in the 1920s.
Why they moved I have no idea perhaps they lost their job and house at Hursley as steam was quickly going out of fashion in agriculture, and Hursley had tragic memories for them they lost a daughter in 1906 through illness, aged 22. And, six years later, a son died also through illness aged just 20. They are buried in Hursley side by side and I have visited the grave. I never knew my paternal grandparents. They had both died long before I was born, and are both buried in Chandler’s Ford old cemetery in Cuckoo Bushes Lane.
“Hazlewood”
My Dad was working at a big house in Chandler’s Ford named “Hazlewood”. I’m not sure where it was, but I believe it was owned by a Major and Mrs Kendall. My dad was chauffeur / under gardener / handyman. H brother-in-law was Head gardener. My Mum was born in Andover and worked I think for the same family (in service) at their London house, eventually coming down to work at Hazlewood and that’s where they met and eventually married.
My Dad was the youngest of 9 children my Mum the eldest of 12, both had left school at 12 and started work. No doubt it was to help family finances and in Mum’s case being the eldest, it meant one less mouth to feed as she worked and lived at her employer’s house “below stairs”!
Credit: All images by Roger White
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Roger White: Where is “The Parade” in Chandler’s Ford? Memories from my 1950s Childhood
Roger,
Many thanks for sharing this remarkable story of your family.
I’ve seen the photo of The Laundry in The Chandler’s Ford Story (Barbara Hillier and Gerald Ponting), on pg 45.
It’s fascinating to know the fact that all soldiers are remembered in Hursley.
Yours precious photos bring history to life. Many thanks. Please keep your stories coming.
About the laundry girls in the 1920s, women really had only just been “freed” from the drudgery of service. Women had done most of the men’s work while the men were away, and women were not going back to those days at last. They could be independant with nights and weekends off and a proper wage.
When my Mum was in service she worked 7 days a week, no holidays, maybe a couple hours on a Sunday to go to church. It was virtually slavery. That’s why the laundry girls were happy. it was probably Friday and there were looking forward to the weekend.
What a lot has changed in our lifetimes and is still changing. Were you nicknamed ‘Chalky’? I think most people with the surname ‘White’ were, especially in the RN.
You were clearly a very modern family with all that mechanisation. I spent some of my childhood sitting behind two cart horses named Blossom and Prince as they pulled rollers, harrows and carts. Once a year we had the excitement and steamy, oily smells of the threshing engine complete with flywheel and drive belts.
I hope you are going to tell us about your service in the Royal Navy.
How lovely that you have written your memories down for all to share. I have lived in Chandler’s Ford all my life and love to hear the stories others have to tell. I’m intrigued to find out where the big house Hazelwood was.
Thanks Karen.
Yes I also would love to find out more about ‘Hazelwood’.
Just wondering if you could also get your mum to share more of her stories? I love her royal collection in Margaret Tee’s Royal Memorabilia.
Wonderful personal and local history article.
My first attempt with help from Janet thanks.
Mike, I was always called “Knocker” White during my Navy time. I came out in 1969, the year before the “rum ration” ended for good!!
Hi Roger,
Bit baffled how I missed this post, or why I hadn’t replied before! I thoroughly enjoyed your article and would be very interested in chatting to you about your family history as it relates to Hursley, and particularly the Hursley Park estate, if you are willing to do so?
Regards
Dave
Hi Dave,
I am Ian Jones born in Hursley in 1939 and the son of Harry Jones , grandfather William Jones of Jones Coaches or Hursley Coaches. I remember the village and estate well.
I wonder if Roger White lived in the timbered cottage next to the saddlers in Hursley .
In 1962 I married Jennie Vining from Hiltonbury Farm. Jennie had worked in the Drawing Office in Hursley Park House as a tracer and knew Anne Fear among others. We both remember the Hutments well and at Hursley school many of the children from there including Simon Watson.
More later when not quite so busy.
Hi Ian
Fascinated to hear that you are the son of Harry Jones of Hursley coaches. I remember your father well, driving us on day trips to Bournemouth, Weymouth and shopping expeditions to Southampton. Another driver was called, I think, Alan Page; his son Trevor was a contemporary of mine at Hursley primary school. I think a Mr Blackwell also drove on occasions.
Among the vehicles was a beautiful cream and red Daimler half-cab reg number JLJ 3, which I think your father bought from Excelsior of Bournemouth. It made the most wonderful purring noise when idling. The upholstery was two shades of blue and I think it also had a sun roof.I would dearly love to know what became of this coach, as it evokes strong and very happy memories in me.
Incidentally, do you have a brother named Aubrey? I recall a pupil at Hursley school whose surname was Jones.
Kind regards
John Wilkinson
Hi John,
A rather belated reply to your posting in May 2020.
Your memories of Hursley Coaches were lovely to read and no doubt we travelled together on Fathers Sunday trips o the coast. The business was started by my Grand Father William Jones , born at Halstead Farm – one of 14 children. I have some lovey old photos of some of his vintage buses! I remember the Daimler Coaches well. We had two of them and I recall Dad and Alan Page carrying out some serious overhauls on the beautiful 6 cylinder engines.
I do indeed have a brother Aubrey more commonly know as ‘Gus.’ He had a very successful career in the Police including a spell in Italy being a undercover agent studying the Mafia. He has written several books and has a new one coming soon called ‘Three Bullets on the Doorstep’ ( that is what happened to him in Rome) and also on Artic Exploration.
Good to hear from you Ian, and thank you for your fascinating reply. Wow, Aubrey certainly had some adventures. I met him briefly at a Hursley school reunion over twenty years ago and recall him mentioning being in the police force. Few of us children living in Chandlers Ford went to Hursley school but I remember it with great affection. If you were a pupil there, we must surely have overlapped (I was there 1954 – 61). I have a photo of the Daimler coach FDL66 with Alan at the wheel and would love to see one of JLJ3. Do you have any pictures of it?
I left Chandlers Ford in 1967 after a spell at Drapers Tools and moved to London to work in the theatre and then BBCtv. Happily retired now!
Ian,
I and my brothers and sister were all born in Chandler’s Ford. It was my Dad’s family that were from Hursley and they moved to Chandler’s Ford during or just after the first War. They lived in the cottages along the main Hursley to Winchester Road. Their address was simply 83 Hursley
Have enjoyed reading your article. It reached me over here in America where I now live. I have many happy memories of visiting my grandma in Chandlers Ford. I am racking my brain to try and remember but I believe she lived at 89 Hursley Road. She was Winnifred Hill, she had 4 sons and 1 daughter, Thelma. My dad was Ken. I remember my dad talking about running down the road and pushing granny in the ditch when the street was being machine gunned during the war. I remember hearing the names White, Shave and I remember playing with Toni Brewer who lived next door to my gran.
hello Roger
im wondering if you knew Margret Francis White and also George Alfred Bulmer?
im trying to trace my family history as i think George also was in the royal engineers for WW2
any information would be greatful!
In 2014 I wrote a book called ‘The Hursley Lads’ about the men of Hursley who fought in WW1. It was revised and more information added in 2018. It concentrated more on those who were killed in the war, rather than those who survived, but Pte Edward White and Sapper James White are mentioned. If you would like a copy, please contact me via Hursley Community Shop. They cost £8.00 and all profits go to The Royal British Legion
Thankyou Antonia. I knew I had an Uncle Jim but knew nothing about him during the first war.
I know little about my Dad’s army service other than a little information I have in a “Roll call of the great War”, which I believe families paid for. I read in that he joined The Hampshire Regiment, was wounded, rehabilitated, and sent back with the Lancashire Fusiliers as with many others. He never said anything about the war.
I was told the Hursley memorial was one of very few who listed all men who went to the Great War including the survivors.
Would certainly like a copy as am interested in history especially local history.
Thank you for your interest in my little book. They are on sale at Hursley Community Shop, but I see you live in Hedge End and you might not want to come all this way. In which case, is it possible for you to send me your address and £8.00 + £1.00 for post and packing? Then I will send you a copy. I did not research many of the survivors, but I see I did find a fair bit about James White which is not in the book. I can type it up and let you have a copy.
Hi Antonia,
I’ll send you an email regarding this book. I’ll get this for Roger.
Many thanks.
Antonia,
Originally from Chandler’s Ford but there were many Whites around Romsey, Hursley, Micheldever. One James White worked at Mottisfont, but found he was no relation my own Uncle lived in Ampfield in later life. I would be very grateful about your info about James White. Also have a photo of my father in uniform recovering from wounds. Many ” Whites” are buried in Micheldever church graveyard.
Hi Roger. Just up having a cuppa with my Mum and we got talking about the Allbrook Quarry. Mum then asked about the Iron pond in Chandlers Ford. I have never heard of the Iron pond before. So looked it up and we came across your Childhood memories. Funny my Mum Joyce Manning used to live next door to you at number 3 Station Lane. She lived there with her Mum and Dad (Dorothy and Jo) along with her siblings Enid, Peter and Tony. She’s now 93 years of age and certainly remembers you and your family. She enjoyed listening to what you had written…..very interesting. Thank you.
Hello Lin
Well well how lovely to hear that Joyce is is still going. There were happy times down the lane, Joyce Enid and Peter were all older than me Tony was about my age and we joined the St John cadets run by Mr Mills in the last bungalow down the lane. We used to have an underground den in the Mannings back garden after the war until it caved in!!! Please let Joyce know my eldest brother Ron is still going slightly younger than Joyce at 87 lives in N Wales, my sister Ann lives in Preston Lancs at 86 sadly now has dementia and in a care home, other brother Peter sadly died 3 years ago and I now live in Hedge End at a sprightly young 78 . Thankyou for getting in touch .
Hello Lin
If you have , or can get any of Barbara Hilliers books on the history of Chandlers Ford in the one Chandlers Ford there is a photo of Joyce’s Dad Jo in the Civil Defence during the war .