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You are here: Home / Community / The Good and the Bad of Fryern Arcade

The Good and the Bad of Fryern Arcade

March 12, 2015 By Mike Sedgwick 12 Comments

People blog about, talk about, write about and visit Fryern Arcade in Chandler’s Ford so there must be something good about it.

Shortly after Fryern was opened in 1967, Ian Nairn, an architectural journalist wrote in the Observer (October 8th 1967) about Fryern and compared it with a similar development, the Fairwater Centre, in Cwmbran, South Wales. Nairn was not impressed with the Fairwater Centre and it no longer exists.

Costa Coffee at Fryern Arcade Chandler's Ford
Pavement coffee drinkers give Fryern the look of a Piazza.

Fryern, on the other hand, was described as being “too good to be true”. Why? What makes it a success?

Nairn identified its development was by a single person, Trevor Donaldson, with the aid of Julian Keable Architects of Reading. Fairwater was the product of a committee. Why did Trevor Donaldson succeed and the committee fail?

Who was Ian Nairn?

Ian Nairn (1930-1983) was not an architect by training but impressed Pevsner who encouraged him to write the Surrey and Sussex volumes of The Buildings of England series.

Nairn made his name by protesting against urban planning failures where, to borrow E M Forster’s phrase “success was indistinguishable from failure”. He wrote an important book called Outrage.

Ian Nairn: A man without a mask. Image by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/moley75/14519958535">Hazel Simpson</a> via Flickr. Image cropped.
Ian Nairn: A man without a mask. Image by Hazel Simpson via Flickr. Image cropped.

Nairn admired pubs, later in his life mainly from the inside and died young of cirrhosis of the liver. He was disillusioned that the spirit of the age was to concentrate on preserving the old but allowing the new to fail.

Fryern Arcade: Location

The location is perfect. It has become, by default, the centre of Chandler’s Ford. It is at a road junction and is supported by two supermarkets, a library, doctor’s surgery and other shops and facilities.

Fryern Arcade: Space

In front is a wide pavement, almost a piazza. Fryern is a natural extension of that space. You do not have to ‘go into’ Fryern. There is no entrance, no threshold, no door or steps. The florists on one corner makes one feel welcome.

The Flower Shop, Fryern Arcade.
The Flower Shop, Fryern Arcade.

Fryern Arcade: Circulation

Never mind spires, flying buttresses, gargoyles and other architectural contrivances. What matters is the creation of good circulation space.

Buildings are for people and people have to get around inside them, meet, move and socialise. Fryern has covered circulation space wide enough for people and the display of some merchandise. It becomes elevated as the ground it is built on slopes away. This keeps you well away from the cars.

At the bottom end you can descend to ground by a spiral staircase.

Staircase of Fryern Arcade Chandler's Ford

Spiral staircases are not much approved these days. If you take the inside of the spiral, the step treads are narrow and lead to falls. On the outside the treads are wide and lead to trips as you need to stride widely to reach the next step.

The Fryern staircase is ergonomically designed as any can be with just the right size of riser.

Fryern Arcade: Shops

Whatever one thinks about Costa Coffee, it is popular and people sitting at the outside tables give the place a festive air.

A good mix of shops is important. Imagine if one side was a Job Centre, a Betting shop at the back, a games arcade somewhere and an empty, boarded up shop. That would be the end of it commercially.

The present shops are varied and the traders happy and pleasant people. It was sad that the bookshop closed but WH Smith is nearly as good.

Boots is a disappointment. They have a long frontage and the widows are blanked out instead of decorated. It would be good to be able to look inside to see how long the queue is.

The hardware shop D & G is amazing. Whatever you ask for, they have it. I am reminded of a poem of A. A. Milne.

Jonathan Jo – by A.A. Milne

Jonathan Jo
Has a mouth like an “O”
And a wheelbarrow full of surprises;
If you ask for a bat,
Or something like that,
He has got it, whatever the size is.

If you’re wanting a ball,
It’s no trouble at all;
Why, the more you ask for, the merrier –
Like a hoop and a top,
And a watch that won’t stop,
And some sweets, and an Aberdeen terrier.

Jonathan Jo
Has a mouth like an “O”
But this is what makes him so funny
If you give him a smile,
Only once in a while,
Then he never expects any money!

There used to be a children’s playground there but I suppose extra cars and ‘elf and safety did for that.

And while talking about safety: Why is there no large notice at the top of the staircase reading “Not Suitable for Mobility Scooters”. Now, that would be fun. I would like to call in Jeremy Clarkson to investigate – after he has had his dinner of course.

Fryern Arcade: the bad bits

It is a matter of opinion but I do not care much for the grey brick. It would have been better built using red brick, possibly the local red brick from Michelmersh brickyard, which was still productive then.

Litter at Fryern
Litter at the rear of Fryern.

There are ageing issues. Round the back one can appreciate the age of the place. It is not always well kept and there is litter, rats (there are rat bait boxes) and a need for some estate maintenance.

And then there is the on-going issue of the public toilets.

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About Mike Sedgwick

Retired, almost. Lived in Chandler's Ford for 20 years. Like sitting in the garden with a beer on sunny days. Also reading, writing and flying a glider. Interested in promoting science.

I work hard as a Grandfather and have a part time job in Kandy, Sri Lanka for the winter months. Married to a beautiful woman and between us we have two beautiful daughters and 3 handsome sons.

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  1. Janet Williams says

    March 12, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    This post has raised a few interesting points. Thanks. I’ve never looked at the Fryern staircase from an argonomics viewpoint. Human factors have affected the arcade’s aesthetics.

    Some drivers do not observe the one-way system into the Arcade car park from Winchester Road. I’ve seen cars driving onto Winchester Road roundabout from the Costa exit. The arcade is functional, vibrant, but is also a danger zone.

    I’d never heard of Jonathan Jo before, so thank you. Next time when I’m at D&G, I’ll remember to smile:
    “…If you give him a smile,
    Only once in a while,
    Then he never expects any money!”

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  2. Allison Symes says

    March 12, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    Great article. Learned a lot from it. Thought Jeremy Clarkson comment wonderful! I used to shop at the D&G Hardware shop in Winchester and it is a fantastic place. I still think Fryern could do with its own small to medium department store to include clothes and shoes. (Asda’s George range is not to everyone’s taste). Oh and the parking was clearly designed for when Fryern was built. How that could be improved I’m not sure but I suspect most folk are not impressed with the struggle to find a parking place at times.

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  3. Hazel Bateman says

    March 14, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    I enjoy shopping in Fryern arcade and find it pleasant and convenient. It is so good to have Grovers Butchers – a good local butcher is becoming a rarity. I agree with Mike about Boots’ frontage. I like the stationery shop too – they stock a good range of things and I can always find what I want.

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  4. Claire Dollery says

    April 22, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    I think the grey brick could benefit from rendering and painting,it makes the place look so glum! Also the back areas and parking could do with a tidy up…and bring back the loos!

    Reply
  5. Jonathan Vining says

    July 6, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    I’d be very interested in seeing the 1967 article by Ian Nairn, in which he mentions the Fairwater Centre in Cwmbran, if you have it, as I am currently doing some research on post-war modernism in Wales and, indeed, visited the centre last Friday. Please let me know if you would be able to email it to me as I have been unable to trace it on the internet. Many thanks in anticipation.

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  6. Dawn Richardson says

    October 3, 2016 at 8:42 am

    No mention of whether there is a LIFT ACCESS for people in wheelchairs or with pushchairs ? Has the slope got steps? or a ramp feature..

    Reply
    • Mike Sedgwick says

      October 4, 2016 at 9:58 am

      Access is from street level. All shops are on this level. There is a slope leading into the car park so no need for a lift. Parking spaces for disabled are designated at the top of the slope. Only the restaurant on the top floor is not wheelchair accessible.

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      • Dawn Richardson says

        October 4, 2016 at 10:21 am

        Thank you for your reply.. helpful!

        Reply

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